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  • Peter Beerli
    Peter BeerliBacker
    Studies about Chytrids are important, but I have several questions about this project that make me wonder whether it is worth funding: (1) why do you focus on these toads? How do you establish that they brought the chytrid? [they could have received it from native species] (2) how does this compare to other species in the same habitat/region? (3) If they have chytrids what then? Are they automatically guilty killing native amphibians? I also would love to see some citations for example "200 species went extinct" etc.
    Sep 13, 2017
  • Steven J R Allain
    Steven J R AllainResearcher
    Hi Peter, thank you for raising some questions - I'm more than happy to answer them for you. We're focusing on the toads as we have reason to believe that they were introduced from somewhere in Spain (waiting for the results of our genetic analysis to confirm this) and virulent strains of the chytrid fungus have caused declines in the species (and others) there. You can find out more by reading this article and others like it: Bosch, J., Martı́nez-Solano, I., & Garcı́a-Parı́s, M. (2001). Evidence of a chytrid fungus infection involved in the decline of the common midwife toad (Alytes obstetricans) in protected areas of central Spain. Biological conservation, 97(3), 331-337. They could have been infected with chytrid from a native source but we have no evidence to suggest the native amphibians are currently infected. If positive results do come back from the midwife toads then we aim to look at the lineage of Bd to try to work out its origins. If they do turn out to be infected with a virulent strain which threatens local species then mitigation will need to be put in place to ensure the disease does not spread. In terms of the loss of species due to chytrid I'd recommend this nice summary: Wake, D. B., & Vredenburg, V. T. (2008). Are we in the midst of the sixth mass extinction? A view from the world of amphibians. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 105, 11466-11473. If you have any other questions or if you feel like I haven't answered yours fully then please let me know. Steve
    Sep 13, 2017
  • Peter Beerli
    Peter BeerliBacker
    Thanks Steve, this helps, I would suggest collecting samples of native amphibians at the site of the mid-wive toads and in the surroundings at the same time (I am aware that there is no money for that yet -- I assume once you have samples you always can test later), but this would allow you to have a clear time point to compare the Bd strains in both groups (if any) and if there is no Bd in the natives at the same site but finding Bd in the toads then the study a great first time points for further monitoring (and getting money through more standard channels). Thanks again, Peter
    Sep 13, 2017
  • Steven J R Allain
    Steven J R AllainResearcher
    You're very welcome Peter and thanks for your donation. Your suggestion is something we intend to do but due to the highly enclosed area where the midwife toads are, native amphibian species are very rarely seen. Common frogs (Rana temporaria) are the next most commonly observed species after the midwife toad and unfortunately tests have revealed that swabbing them for Bd isn't reliable. The other species however are on our radar.
    Sep 13, 2017
  • Jelmer Groen
    Jelmer GroenBacker
    Good luck guys!
    Aug 29, 2017
  • Mark James Goodman
    Mark James GoodmanResearcher
    Thanks Mikaella. Looking forward to co-presenting with Steve regarding this project at the joint scientific meeting in December.
    Aug 25, 2017
  • Mikaella Lock
    Mikaella LockBacker
    What a refreshing project - and such an important one. I am very much looking forward to seeing the results of this. Best of luck to two very dedicated researchers.
    Aug 23, 2017
  • Kristien Bateman
    Kristien BatemanBacker
    Best of luck - promising reasearch.
    Aug 18, 2017
  • Steven J R Allain
    Steven J R AllainResearcher
    Thank you for the support.
    Aug 21, 2017
  • Clare Worden
    Clare WordenBacker
    Good luck with the research- save the frogs!
    Aug 15, 2017
  • Steven J R Allain
    Steven J R AllainResearcher
    Thank you for the kind words of support!
    Aug 21, 2017
  • Talita Bateman
    Talita BatemanBacker
    Looking forward to seeing the results! Keep up the good work guys!
    Aug 15, 2017
  • Steven J R Allain
    Steven J R AllainResearcher
    Thanks Talita, we'll keep everyone up to date as and when developments happen!
    Aug 15, 2017